[jdev] PyICQ-t branch / PyICQ-t fork?

[Jonathan Schleifer]

For my server webkeks.org, I was using pyICQ-t. Over the time, I
developed a few patches to make it usable again. Since the developers
of pyICQ-t showed no interested at all in bug reports or even patches,
I just hacked my local version.
As the patches grew, I decided to make them public. I collected them
and did a pyICQ-t branch. You can find it here:
https://webkeks.org/hg/webkeksicq-t/

The changes aren't too big at the moment, but it already has a huge
impact on usability. ICQ 6 status messages work and typing
notifications are fixed, for example.

If there's interest in patches like these for pyICQ-t, maybe it would
be time to fork it so development of pyICQ-t can go on again? The
project on Google Code is more than dead, not even caring for patches
that fix bugs.

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[ml-jabber@micressor.ch]

Am Fr, 4.07.2008, 11:14, schrieb Jonathan Schleifer:
> If there's interest in patches like these for pyICQ-t, maybe it would
> be time to fork it so development of pyICQ-t can go on again? The
> project on Google Code is more than dead, not even caring for patches
> that fix bugs.

Hi,

Try to contact some people on muc channel
pytransports (AT) conference (DOT) jabber.modevia.com
for infos about pyicq-t.

Cheers
Marco
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[Jonathan Schleifer]

"ml-jabber (AT) micressor (DOT) ch" <ml-jabber (AT) micressor (DOT) ch> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Try to contact some people on muc channel
> pytransports (AT) conference (DOT) jabber.modevia.com
> for infos about pyicq-t.

That channel is as dead as the Google Code project.
Before I decided to put all my patches together and create a branch, I
tried multiple times to get patches into the official pyICQ-t repo. No
luck. I didn't really want to fork, but what should I do if the project
is totally dead?

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[Tomasz Sterna]

Dnia 2008-07-04, pią o godzinie 11:24 +0200, Jonathan Schleifer pisze:
> I didn't really want to fork, but what should I do if the project
> is totally dead?

Do what I did with jabberd2. Do not fork, just pick up and go on.
If you do a good job, your version would eventually become
"official". :-)


P.S. I'm willing to host your version at http://jtransports.xiaoka.com/
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[Jonathan Schleifer]

Tomasz Sterna <tomek (AT) xiaoka (DOT) com> wrote:

> Do what I did with jabberd2. Do not fork, just pick up and go on.
> If you do a good job, your version would eventually become
> "official". :-)

What exactly do you mean by pick up? Working on a branch and hoping it
will become 'official' someday?

> P.S. I'm willing to host your version at
> http://jtransports.xiaoka.com/

Thanks for the offer, but I prefer Mercurial over SVN :).

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[Tomasz Sterna]

Dnia 2008-07-04, pią o godzinie 12:06 +0200, Jonathan Schleifer pisze:
> What exactly do you mean by pick up? Working on a branch and hoping it
> will become 'official' someday?

I created my own repository to manage my changes and bugfix merges.
One day I decided to release a tarball from it creating
jabberd-2.1.tar.gz and announced it on jadmin.

This is how GPL works. :-)


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[Alexey Nezhdanov]

On Friday 04 July 2008 14:06:08 Jonathan Schleifer wrote:
> Tomasz Sterna <tomek (AT) xiaoka (DOT) com> wrote:
> > Do what I did with jabberd2. Do not fork, just pick up and go on.
> > If you do a good job, your version would eventually become
> > "official". :-)
>
> What exactly do you mean by pick up? Working on a branch and hoping it
> will become 'official' someday?
Yes, with only a little additions:
1) announce that you are going to maintain your branch in usual place
(py-transports maillist?), happy to receive patches etc...
2) Each time you make any significant improvements to the branch - announce it
again.

So people will see that transport is alive and just developed/maintained now
by different person. You will get people's attention as a result and, as
Tomasz said, your branch will become official. That's how it it works, there
is no such thing as 'official' or not. Just good code and bad code, live
project and dead project, that's it.

>
> > P.S. I'm willing to host your version at
> > http://jtransports.xiaoka.com/
>
> Thanks for the offer, but I prefer Mercurial over SVN :).



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[ml-jabber@micressor.ch]

Am Fr, 4.07.2008, 11:24, schrieb Jonathan Schleifer:
> That channel is as dead as the Google Code project.
> Before I decided to put all my patches together and create a branch, I
> tried multiple times to get patches into the official pyICQ-t repo. No
> luck. I didn't really want to fork, but what should I do if the project
> is totally dead?

If you like, please go ahead and maintaine pyicq-t and announce that.
Jabber admins which use this transport would like to see that. Me too. :)

Cheers
Marco


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[Jonathan Schleifer]

Daniel Henninger <Daniel.Henninger (AT) jivesoftware (DOT) com> wrote:

> It's a shame you didn't contact me a couple of months ago when I was
> recruiting people to take it over. =) Either way, good luck with it!

I created multiple tickets in the bug tracker, pasted multiple patches,
joined the channel, only one person was there, I PM'd that person (he
had administrator status, so I guess he's a developer), got no reply,
finally left and PM'd him my JID before leaving - and never got a
reply. I didn't see anyone recruiting anyone for it.

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