Re: [mobile] Cell IDs over XMPP?

[Stephen Pendleton]

I use the cellid in imov Messenger (XMPP client for Windows Mobile
smartphones) to obtain a lat/lon when a GPS is not available. Once the
lat/lon is obtained it is shared via XEP-0080 using pubsub.

How useful is it to send the cellid itself though? Ultimately clients are
interested in lat/lon and not cellid's. Since the source can translate the
cellid to lat/lon it seems more efficient to do the cellid<->lat/lon lookup
at the source rather than at every client. As an added bonus you don't need
to modify any XEPs!

-----Original Message-----
From: mobile-bounces (AT) xmpp (DOT) org [mailto:mobile-bounces (AT) xmpp (DOT) org] On Behalf Of
Peter Saint-Andre
Sent: 07/30/2008 1:11 AM
To: Going Mobile with Jabber/XMPP
Subject: [mobile] Cell IDs over XMPP?


As inspired by a conversation with kael:

https://stpeter.im/?p=2231

/psa

[Mickaël Rémond]

Hello,

I think the cellID is a different data and can be interesting to
share. I feel you sometime do not need lat/lon but simply to know the
cellID. It can be the case to detect that two people are on the same
cell.
This is also the case if you want to remember places that your group
of people know: For example, you can be interested to know that you
are at home or at the office. This is what our OneTeam mobile client
does or what the Jaiku mobile client does.

The point is probably not to translate cellID to location on the
target client, but do needed processing on the server side.

To me, cellID sharing is a usefull addition.

Le 30 juil. 08 Ã* 16:38, Stephen Pendleton a écrit :

> I use the cellid in imov Messenger (XMPP client for Windows Mobile
> smartphones) to obtain a lat/lon when a GPS is not available. Once the
> lat/lon is obtained it is shared via XEP-0080 using pubsub.
>
> How useful is it to send the cellid itself though? Ultimately
> clients are
> interested in lat/lon and not cellid's. Since the source can
> translate the
> cellid to lat/lon it seems more efficient to do the cellid<->lat/lon
> lookup
> at the source rather than at every client. As an added bonus you
> don't need
> to modify any XEPs!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mobile-bounces (AT) xmpp (DOT) org [mailto:mobile-bounces (AT) xmpp (DOT) org] On
> Behalf Of
> Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: 07/30/2008 1:11 AM
> To: Going Mobile with Jabber/XMPP
> Subject: [mobile] Cell IDs over XMPP?
>
>
> As inspired by a conversation with kael:
>
> https://stpeter.im/?p=2231
>
> /psa
>
>

--
Mickaël Rémond
http://www.process-one.net/

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Mickaël Rémond wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think the cellID is a different data and can be interesting to share.
> I feel you sometime do not need lat/lon but simply to know the cellID.
> It can be the case to detect that two people are on the same cell.
> This is also the case if you want to remember places that your group of
> people know: For example, you can be interested to know that you are at
> home or at the office. This is what our OneTeam mobile client does or
> what the Jaiku mobile client does.
>
> The point is probably not to translate cellID to location on the target
> client, but do needed processing on the server side.
>
> To me, cellID sharing is a usefull addition.

Agreed. So the question is: does this belong in XEP-0080 or in a new
namespace?

/psa