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Peter Saint-Andre
08-04-2008, 09:43 PM
Someone poked me offlist about integration between SyncML and XMPP. I
haven't looked at SyncML in years so I don't have any opinions about
this, but I figured that folks on this list might be interested in the
topic. :)

/psa

flo
08-05-2008, 12:19 AM
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Someone poked me offlist about integration between SyncML and XMPP. I
> haven't looked at SyncML in years so I don't have any opinions about
> this, but I figured that folks on this list might be interested in the
> topic. :)
>
> /psa
that sounds interesting!
syncing native phonebook with jabber roster (even on older phones)
and update presence there..?

flo

kael
08-07-2008, 08:43 PM
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Someone poked me offlist about integration between SyncML and XMPP. I
> haven't looked at SyncML in years so I don't have any opinions about
> this, but I figured that folks on this list might be interested in the
> topic. :)

In addition to an unified address book, a SyncML-to-XMPP transport could
send SyncML calendar events as PEP messages.

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kael

Andreas Monitzer
08-08-2008, 10:09 AM
On Aug 05, 2008, at 00:17, flo wrote:

> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Someone poked me offlist about integration between SyncML and XMPP.
>> I haven't looked at SyncML in years so I don't have any opinions
>> about this, but I figured that folks on this list might be
>> interested in the topic. :)
>>
>> /psa
> that sounds interesting!
> syncing native phonebook with jabber roster (even on older phones)
> and update presence there..?

I'd think that this could have uses beyond mobile applications. For
example, you could keep calendars and address books on multiple
computers in sync, like it was announced for Apple's MobileMe platform
(which can't do that right now due to technical difficulties).
They demonstrated adding a new calendar entry at the WWDC keynote,
which then was available immediately on a second Mac, MobileMe's web
interface and Steve's iPhone.

andy

Peter Saint-Andre
08-08-2008, 07:56 PM
Andreas Monitzer wrote:
> On Aug 05, 2008, at 00:17, flo wrote:
>
>> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>> Someone poked me offlist about integration between SyncML and XMPP. I
>>> haven't looked at SyncML in years so I don't have any opinions about
>>> this, but I figured that folks on this list might be interested in
>>> the topic. :)
>>>
>>> /psa
>> that sounds interesting!
>> syncing native phonebook with jabber roster (even on older phones)
>> and update presence there..?
>
> I'd think that this could have uses beyond mobile applications. For
> example, you could keep calendars and address books on multiple
> computers in sync, like it was announced for Apple's MobileMe platform
> (which can't do that right now due to technical difficulties).
> They demonstrated adding a new calendar entry at the WWDC keynote, which
> then was available immediately on a second Mac, MobileMe's web interface
> and Steve's iPhone.

It all sounds intriguing. Unfortunately I won't have the cycles to work
on this for quite a while. Anyone else interested enough to investigate
it more deeply?

/psa

kael
08-08-2008, 09:00 PM
Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Andreas Monitzer wrote:
>> I'd think that this could have uses beyond mobile applications. For
>> example, you could keep calendars and address books on multiple
>> computers in sync, like it was announced for Apple's MobileMe platform
>> (which can't do that right now due to technical difficulties).
>> They demonstrated adding a new calendar entry at the WWDC keynote, which
>> then was available immediately on a second Mac, MobileMe's web interface
>> and Steve's iPhone.
>
> It all sounds intriguing. Unfortunately I won't have the cycles to work
> on this for quite a while. Anyone else interested enough to investigate
> it more deeply?

Here's a first clue that doesn't concern the SyncML part but the
MobileMe Pubsub mail notifications
<http://samj.net/2008/07/apple-iphone-20-real-story-behind-push.html>.

All this makes think that not only there could be SyncML calendar events
published with PEP, but also mail notifications and by extensions
voicemail and fax notifications (with a derived version of
draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp - actually this draft should use PEP, IMHO,
but I disgress).

Regarding the SyncML synchronization mechanism, not sure there's any
public documentation yet.

--
kael